For Mother’s Day, “A Tale of Two Mothers”, or, “Who’s Your Momma?”

So who is your momma?

This may seem like a strange question coming from a website like this, but I’m speaking of your spiritual mother. Many may ask what that even means. But if this question can indeed be asked, and a true answer given, it has great potential to open our eyes to world events in the end times.

There are only two possible answers to the question. The true answer, for you, reveals one of two possible eternal destinies for you.

(Interestingly also, I didn’t plan it this way, but the thoughts and issue came to a head just a couple days before Mother’s Day, appropriately. This may be God’s way of making this issue stand out more in our minds.)

My Decision on Chiastics’ Place in Bible Interpretation

In this recent post in which I refuted Joel Richardson’s Daniel 8 teaching video, I announced I had become convinced of the essential role of chiastics in interpretation. Chiastics reveals the textual form of Scripture setting the overall tone and direction of the text, and the words themselves give us the details. The details within the words themselves can be misunderstood by themselves, evidently. (Even in matters of plain doctrine there are 20,000 Protestant denominations in the world.) However, the form of the text shows us what to look for in the words of Scripture.

In this article I will explain the silver bullet I recently discovered that made me come to the conclusion that I wrote about in that recent post: I believe that the text form and the text words themselves must meet in the middle. Word meanings can be twisted, and so can chiastic analyses, but where they are both done correctly and agree, I believe we arrive at the truth.

Babylon the Great

My recent discovery, which I will reveal a little later here, so happens to be a game-changer for understanding Babylon the Great in Revelation 17. Failing to see the words of Scripture and the text form regarding Babylon the Great to completely “meet in the middle” was a major block to keep me from fully embracing chiastic form’s use in interpretation. I say “completely” because all the words in a chiastic passage must be explained, and the last domino to fall for me was the use of the word “Mother” in Revelation 17:5.

Investigating Babylon the Great right here, let’s look at the chiastic form of Scripture first, to set the direction, and then let’s examine the words in Scripture to fill in the details. We will indeed see chiastics and the word meanings meet in the middle.

The Chiastic Form of the Text

We start with the chiasmus presented in Figure 99 of Chronicles of the End Times, and reproduced below. Fifteen similar words and phrases, in the same order, echoing between Revelation 17 and 21:9–22:5 show us the form of the text. Showing two parallel echoing texts, the chiasmus shows us the Harlot is somehow related to the Bride. Realizing that brides are faithful and harlots are unfaithful, the foundation is set for understanding that the Harlot and the Bride are opposites of one another.

Figure 99 from chapter 37 of Chronicles of the End Times. Note the fifteen echoing markers (numbers in squares) showing us these two texts are related.

Chronicles explains that this means, just as no servants of Christ reside outside of the Bride, and all servants of Christ are of the Bride, no non-servants of Christ are outside of the Harlot, and all non-servants are of the Harlot. All servants of Christ live in the New Jerusalem, and all non-servants live in the great city (Rev. 17:18).

Keeping this piece of information in mind from chiastics that the Bride and the Harlot are opposites, we press further into seeking the words in Scripture that support this idea. We are now trained to pick up on a meaning from the words themselves that we may not have associated with this topic in the past. This is where I found the “silver bullet.” This does not involve forcing a meaning: it comes down to, are the words there or not, plainly?

The Words of the Text

Most of us who study the Bible and are prophecy students are familiar with the words of Revelation 17:5. In that verse John the Apostle sees a vision of the Harlot on a seven-headed beast and repeats the name written on her forehead: “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

By itself, that inscription can be confusing; words by themselves can be confusing. There are many interpretations being taught about that one sentence. Why she is named “Babylon the Great” and what are the abominations can both be readily explained. Let’s focus here in this article on the most confusing phrase in the middle: “THE MOTHER OF [THE] HARLOTS . . . OF THE EARTH.”

First, note I added the extra “the” in brackets. No, I am not twisting Scripture. That extra “the” is there in the original Greek (go look it up—and it does make a difference in interpretation) but is left out by most Bible translations (I don’t know why). The phrase “the mother of the harlots” wouldn’t be finished without “of the earth.” Revelation 17:5 speaks of two things that are “of the earth”: the harlots and the abominations. Here we will focus on “the harlots.”

Abominations are sins such as idolatry, but who are “the harlots”?

Who are the Harlots?

To answer that question we have to go to the Old Testament prophets such as Jeremiah and Hosea. A theme running through these books is that the righteous are faithful to their husband, God, and idolaters are unfaithful and adulterous to God.

Hosea 4:12 says of the unfaithful people, “They consult a wooden idol and are answered by a stick of wood. A spirit of prostitution leads them astray; they are unfaithful to their God.”

Speaking to Israel, Jeremiah 2:2 and 3:1 contrast with one another saying, “As a bride you loved me and followed me through the desert,” and “But you have lived as a prostitute with many lovers—would you now return to me?” Addressing Israel, this issue is finished with Jeremiah 3:9: “she defiled the land and committed adultery with stone and wood.” [added emphasis] How does one commit adultery with stone and wood? It is not done by adultery between two people not married to each other. It is done by engaging in idolatry against God using images of stone and wood. God even calls the idolaters back to Him in his mercy: “‘Return, faithless people,’ declares the LORD, ‘for I am your husband.’” [emphasis added]

Paul clarifies what is all included in idolatry in Colossians 3:5: “Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.”

It can be seen from these verses, the detailed words of Scripture, that the harlots of the earth are none other than the idolaters; they are everyone who puts themselves and their interests first, ahead of serving God.

As an aside, this helps us understand Revelation 2:22 better, speaking of those who commit adultery with the prophetess Jezebel. They aren’t necessarily committing adultery, but spiritual adultery, i.e. idolatry along with the prophetess.

Who is the Mother of Harlots?

Now, we have seen the chiastic form show us the Harlot to be the opposite of the Bride. We have also seen the meaning of “the harlots of the earth” in Revelation 17:5. Now we meet head-on the last question and focus of this article: Who is the mother of the harlots of the earth?

Now, besides the harlots being understood, other questions have been answered as to why the Bride and Harlot are opposites and not geographical. For example, the wilderness John is led into in Rev. 17:3 is not an actual place but is a textual opposite of the mountain John is led to, to see the Bride in Rev. 21:10. In terms of great kingdoms, the Bride is the greatest, thus a high mountain, while the Harlot is desolation, for the final state of the Harlot is the lake of fire and desolation. What of the punishment of the Harlot in Revelation 18? It is only the Trumpets and Bowls, and all man’s cities being destroyed (Rev. 16:19). It is very possible that ship’s crews at sea will survive the coming of Christ while watching New York, Rome, Shanghai, Tokyo, Sydney, and Rio de Janeiro burn. Only a third of the ships were earlier destroyed (Rev. 8:9).

Many issues like these have been addressed in the research for my new book about Babylon the Great.

But one issue stayed beyond my understanding: If the Harlot, Babylon the Great is the mother of the harlots of the earth, why isn’t the Bride said to be the mother of the servants of God?

So I placed the whole thing on the shelf for the last few months. I’m not going to publish a book in which I don’t believe and can defend the topic 100%.

The chiastic text form was still on my mind, in the background. But there was a conundrum involving the idea of “mother.” This point about mothers has been a block for me. However, it turns out this was all in God’s good time.

The Answer to the “Mothers” Riddle!

So about a month ago I was just reading the Word, reading Paul’s letter to the Galatians. Even though passages are familiar to me, I love having God’s words and truth wash over my soul. So many things are called to mind, and your soul lights up. You all know what I’m talking about.

Well, I got to Galatians 4:22–24 which talks of two mothers. One is Sarah, the mother of those who are free, and Hagar, the mother of those who are bound. Hmm . . . two mothers sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

Moving on to Galatians 4:25 was the familiar passage that Hagar is compared to Mount Sinai which is in Arabia. This verse is the basis for seeking Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia rather than the namesake Sinai Peninsula. Joel Richardson has an excellent video on this topic.

Galatians 4:25 also compares Hagar to the Jerusalem that existed then and exists now. It’s the geographical one here on earth made of stone.

But it was Galatians 4:26 that took my breath away: “But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.” My first reaction was “Whoa, that’s it!!”

John wrote in Revelation 21:2, “I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.” [emphasis added]  Revelation 21:9-10 says, “‘Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.’ And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.”

So . . . between Revelation 21 and Galatians 4, the Bible DOES say the Jerusalem above, the one that descends from Heaven for eternity to the New Earth, who is the Bride, is the mother of all the saints!


It was chiastics that set my mind on the right path, that the Harlot and the Bride are opposites in every way. My mind was ready to receive the words of Scripture and see them correctly and put them in context! It must have been dozens of times that I read Galatians 4:26 in the past two decades and didn’t think twice of the connection to Babylon the Great. But the text form set my mind to it.

And there it was! Some people say the Bible says only once the Bride is the mother of all us saints. Well, I would answer that only once in Revelations 17:5 the Bible says the Harlot is the Mother of the harlots—and look where that got us: a centuries-old industry of interpretation from one mention.

For me, this issue about “Mother” being either the Harlot or the Bride and what the Bible says was the final nail in the coffin of believing the Harlot was any kind of religious or geographical entity.

So, letting this whole situation sink in, what does “Mother” mean in those two verses of Revelation 17:5 and Galatians 4:26? It plainly does not mean the biggest or greatest of something. It also does not mean a progenitor, or reproducer, either.

I repeat here what I wrote at the top of this article—

I believe that the text form and the text words themselves must meet in the middle. Word meanings can be twisted, and so can chiastic analyses, but where they are both done correctly and agree, I believe we arrive at the truth.

I believe we have the answer and the riddle is solved. Chiastics set the tone. The words, the details, fall in line with that tone. The words of the Bible have met the form of the Bible in the middle.

Paul the Apostle wrote in AD 50 or so, 40 years before Revelation was written, that the holy city above is our mother. First century Christians would have been familiar with this saying.

John then wrote of the mysterious Harlot he saw, and that she is the Mother of the idolaters of the earth.

The meaning of “mother” becomes obvious, I believe. “Mother” is proven to mean the ilk of which you and every one of us are. “Ilk” means persuasion or bent. Of whose persuasion are you? Of which mother do you follow? It is the cloth you are cut from. Of which mother do you have the same bent? What is your predilection, fondness, or leaning? Are you serving the Lord of the universe, or yourself? Are you a faithful servant, or a harlot?

There is only the Harlot and only the Bride and all humans reside in one or the other, and all humans are part of one or the other and all human beings have only one or the other as their spiritual mother.

So I ask you again the same question at the beginning of this article: “Who’s your Momma?” The answer can only be “the Harlot” or “the Bride.”

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11 replies

  1. ““Behold, everyone who quotes proverbs will quote this proverb concerning you, saying, ‘Like mother, like daughter.’ “You are the daughter of your mother, who loathed her husband and children. You are also the sister of your sisters, who loathed their husbands and children. Your mother was a Hittite and your father an Amorite. “Now your older sister is Samaria, who lives north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lives south of you, is Sodom with her daughters. “Yet you have not merely walked in their ways or done according to their abominations; but, as if that were too little, you acted more corruptly in all your conduct than they. “As I live,” declares the Lord GOD, “Sodom, your sister and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done.” (Ezekiel 16:44–48, NASB95)

  2. I am looking forward to your new book about Babylon the Great. You’ll need to cover the correspondencies between Isaiah 47 and Revelation 17-18.

    The “millstones” of 47:2 is echoed in 18:22.
    The “nakedness” of 47:3 is echoed in 17:16.
    The “lady of kingdoms” of 47:5 is echoed in 17:18.

    “I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children; but these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children and widowhood” (47:8:9) is echoed by “I sit a queen and am no widow and shall see no sorrow; therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning” (18:7-8).

    The “sorceries” of 47:9,12 are echoed in 18:23.
    The “fire” of 47:14 is echoed in 17:16, 18:8.
    The “merchants” of 47:15 is echoed in 18:12-19,23.

    Revelation 17-18 does not indicate geography, even though Joel Richardson tried to suggest it from the list of commodities in Revelation 18. Some chronology is revealed. The mention of ten horns indicates the reign of Antichrist.

    Although Isaiah 47 is more concerned with spiritual realities than geography or chronology, verse 1 may suggest the first signpost.

    Come down, and sit in the dust,
    O virgin daughter of Babylon;
    sit on the ground, there is no throne,
    O daughter of the Chaldeans;
    for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.

    “Come down” is echoed by “it was lifted up from the earth and made stand upon the feet as a man and a man’s heart was given to it” (Daniel 7:4). “The daughter of the Chaldeans” may suggest Iraq during the first signpost, which ended when Iraq was forced to become a more civilized country. Saddam Hussein had been guilty of crimes against humanity:

  3. I appreciate your ability to take the complex and simplify it rationally for better clearer understanding. Chewing on all that biblical food is work (breaking it down so it can be swallowed and digested). Few people have the teeth and determination to do that.

  4. Mark, many thanks for sharing this…..can’t wait for the book!
    May the Lord continue to bless your work 🙏🏻

  5. When I read the heading, “New Jerusalem” immediately came to mind.

  6. Mark,

    I was watching a Steve Quayle presentation from the 2019 Gen6 Conference and he brought up an interesting thought that I would like for you to research further because it makes very good sense to me as to why fallen beings are so interested in human DNA and is related to the phrase of in Rev. 18:13, “…and the bodies and souls of men”. According to Quayle, when Adam fell God gifted man special abilities to do as God commanded to subdue the earth and take dominion over it (Gen. 1:28). But before those enhanced abilities could be utilized, Adam fell into sin, as we all know. As a result of the fall, God immobilized those special abilities which may include clairvoyance, telekinesis, etc. called the “latent powers of the soul”.

    I’ve done a bit of small internet research on this topic. I find this trail credible to run down to see if this is the case. Here are the links that I started with:,v13-m.htm


  7. When I consider the passage in Daniel 4:15-17
    I still have some questions…..

    “But let the stump and its roots, bound with iron and bronze, remain in the ground, in the grass of the field. Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven, and let him live with the animals among the plants of the earth. Let his mind be changed from that of a man and let him be given the mind of an animal, till seven times[d] pass by for him.”

    What does that mean exactly? Is it prophetic. “Its roots are bound with” iron and bronze
    What is this woman that is taken back to Shinar where a temple is built for her? Zechariah 5:11

    Do chiastics reveal everything or simply general themes, is there something still ‘hidden?”

    Now what I can figure from the Bible, it is reference to the original Babylon and the influence of her infamous system (her idolatries) in which others follow.

    I don’t think……
    It is Rome?
    It is New York
    and I kinda think you’re right, it is not Mecca too
    It is not, Moscow, Constantinople, or Rio ( they are all on seven hills),

    So one is left with a conclusion, as they indeed all appear indeed INFLUENCED by Babylon but from Scripture a judgment does appear to be still on original Babylon as well.

    Something I have also come across also is that Belshazzar’s father Nabonidus resigned himself to Tayma in Southern Babylon, which was in Saudi Arabia, as was into worship the moon god of Babylon. I do believe Babylon’s activity is strongly active through many countries in the Middle East but don’t believe it is isolated to Mecca. Joel did entertain the idea of original Babylon in his book on Mystery Babylon but because it is not in a desert that he didn’t pursue it. I have heard put forward that there is political Babylon, economic, and religious Babylon. That triad existed in the original Babylon and is copied and imitated today where some maybe follow more along the lines of economics then the other three. Rome does have some syncretic elements with religious Babylon but not like Woodrow and Dave Hunt suggests.

    We definitely don’t need to emulate her and come out from among her system.

  8. Gary,
    Good questions and ponderings. They make me think and ponder as well.
    Chiastics doesn’t tell us everything, but it tells us the top-level “guidelines” to guide us in our study of the words in Scripture in every text. For example, I haven’t found anything from chiastics that tells us the nature of the Mark. And yet it tells us the Harlot is the opposite of the Bride. It tells us the relationship between Daniel 2 and Daniel 7. The details are in the words themselves, however, there are some details chiastics reveals, like the answer to Zechariah’s question in chapter 4, “What are these my lord?” (Chronicles Fig. 50), and that the virgins’ torches are the outside, and the oil isn’t the HS, but the condition of the inside (Chronicles Fig. 57) where there may be greed, hypocrisy and wickedness.
    Regarding Babylon, and Babylon the Great, its not that Babylon “influenced” people, or that we “emulate” her, its more towards people being the same “ilk” as I wrote in the post. Wherever humans are sinful and let their sins lead their life, the same patterns will always pop up; “Babylon the Great” will always appear, emerging from man’s sinful ways. Wherever there are non-servants of Christ, there will always be the same triad as you call it, in man’s society. Babel, is the first example.
    In fact, “Babylon” is “Babel.” “Babylon” is the Greek name for that first city. The city Nebuchadnezzar ruled is the same city Nimrod ruled, and is the same ruled by Saddam Hussein (he even attempted to rebuild the physical Babel), and the future Antichrist. “Babylon the Great” should actually be “Babel the Great.” ALL our ancestors lived there at one time, and rebelled against God.
    Hope this all helps.

  9. Mark,

    Today, an archbishop in the Catholic church issued an open letter to President Trump. The subject of the letter is exactly what you are studying and writing a new book about.

    The letter predicts that current evil plans by deep state operators will be exposed for the world to see, which is what Isaiah 26:20-21 prophesied of: “Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers [because of the coronavirus], and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.”

    In sync with Isaiah 26:20-21, Isaiah 24:10 prophesied: “The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.” While cooped up because of coronavirus, some people with musical talent have engaged in online virtual choirs: “From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous” (Isaiah 24:16). Isaiah 24:21-22 confirms that the punishment mentioned in Isaiah 26:21 will result in some deep state operatives ending up in prison. Isaiah 24:17-18 seems to be in sync with Revelation 6:4, which refers to Iran invading the Middle East.

    The “deep church” that the archbishop wrote about does not want people to know that Bible prophecies are being fulfilled. Look how its operatives reacted when President Trump held up a Bible in the aftermath of some deep state inspired violence.

  10. When an angel said to John, “Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters” (Revelation 17:1), that can only refer to what John was shown in 16:19: “And God remembered Babylon the great and gave her the cup of the wine of the fury of His wrath.” So “the great whore” (16:19) is “Babylon the great” (17:1) and God’s “judgment of the great whore” (16:19) is “the fury of His wrath” (17:1). “The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed” (16:19) is just as worldwide in scope as is “the great whore that sitteth upon many waters” (17:1).

    In the first half of 2020, due to the coronavirus pandemic, the cities of almost all nations collapsed economically, with people around the world being confined to their homes. Isaiah 26:20-21 portrays home confinement as a prelude to an outpouring of God’s wrath: “Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.”

    Nostradamus quatrain 2:53 reads:
    La grande peste de cité maritime
    Ne cessera que mort ne soit vengée
    Du juste sang par pris damné sans crime :
    De la grand dame par feincte n’outraigée.

    Sieburth’s 2012 translation:
    The mighty plague in the city by the sea
    Shall not end until the death is avenged
    Of innocent blood unjustly condemned :
    The great dame outraged by the knavery.

    “the city by the sea” = “the great whore that sitteth upon many waters”
    “the great dame” = “Babylon the great”
    “innocent blood unjustly condemned” = “the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus” (17:6).

    If Nostradamus 2:53 is right, before the coronavirus pandemic ends, the “great dame” will be “outraged by the knavery” of having her crimes against humanity publicly exposed (Isaiah 26:21). Nevertheless, the great whore will not be completely destroyed until Revelation 17:16 is fulfilled: “And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.”

  11. The burning of the bad mother is instigated by the ten kings that reign “one hour with the beast” (Revelation 17:12,16). A second set of kings watches from a safe distance: “And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come” (Revelation 18:9-10). Different than the “ten kings” and “the kings of the earth” are “the merchants of the earth” who “shall weep and mourn over her, for no man buyeth their merchandise any more” (Revelation 18:11).

    If the burning was in one location, it would not require ten kings to start the fire. If the burning was in one location, why would all the kings and the merchants of the earth need to be wary of getting too close to it?

    You wrote: “It is very possible that ship’s crews at sea will survive the coming of Christ while watching New York, Rome, Shanghai, Tokyo, Sydney, and Rio de Janeiro burn. Only a third of the ships were earlier destroyed (Rev. 8:9).”

    Except for Rome, these cities are beyond the scope of Nostradamus prophecies, which are confined to “most of the towns & cities of all Europe, including Africa & a portion of Asia” (Epistle to Henry II).

    Un qui les dieux d’Annibal infernaulx,
    Fera renaistre, effrayeur des humains :
    Oncq’plus d’horreur ne plus pires fourneaux
    Qu’avint viendra par Babel aux Romains.

    “fourneaux” (furnaces) was thought by Brind’Amour to have been intended and not the standard reading of “journaux” (journals).

    Lemesurier’s 2010 translation from the standard reading (the brackets are his):
    One who the infernal gods of Hannibal
    shall cause to be reborn, [shall become] the terror of mankind:
    never more horrors nor worse reports
    than ever occurred shall come to the Romans through Babel [Mesopotamia].

    Sieburth’s 2012 translation from the critical reading:
    The one whom Hannibal’s infernal gods
    Shall cause to be reborn, a bane to man :
    Furnaces worse than ever burned this hot
    Babylon shall inflict on the Romans.

    Hannibal was a Carthaginian general during the Second Punic War against Rome (218–201 BC). Although he led an invasion into the Italian Peninsula, he never burned Rome.

    La vraye flamme engloutira la dame,
    Que voudra mettre les Innocens à feu :
    Près de l’assaut l’exercite s’enflamme,
    Quand dans Seville monstre en bœuf sera veu.

    Lemesurier’s 2010 translation:
    The real flame shall consume the lady
    who shall want to put the innocents in the fire:
    before the assault the army is inflamed
    when in Seville a monstrous bull shall be seen.

    Seville is in Spain.

    Subit venu l’effrayeur sera grande,
    Des principaux de l’affaire cachés :
    Et dame en braise plus ne sera en veue,
    Ce peu à peu seront les grands faschés.

    Sieburth’s 2012 translation:
    Major fright when he bursts onto the scene,
    The various culprits shall go scot-free :
    The more the lady in flames is perceived,
    The more enraged all their lordships shall be.

    “Their lordships” may be “the kings of the earth” (Revelation 18:9) watching “the lady in flames.”

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