Have you ever wondered why Daniel and Revelation have always been so mysterious and hard to understand? I believe the answer can be found at the end of Daniel. At the end of the book of Daniel God’s angel told Daniel about the recorded visions in Daniel, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.” (Daniel 12:9, NASB) The NIV and NKJV use the phrase “closed up.” The word behind “concealed” and “closed up” is catham (saw-tham’, Strong’s #5640). It is used in Ezekiel where he is prophesying about Satan, “Are you wiser than Daniel? Is no secret hidden from you?” (Ezekiel 28:3, NIV, author emphasis) Interesting that Daniel is chosen for comparison when it comes to hidden secrets. The bottom-line is that whole chapters in Daniel are to be kept concealed, that is, not plain and not understood properly, until the end time, just as Daniel 12:9 says.
That is why for centuries theologians have wrestled with Daniel chapters 7 and 8, coming up with the current standard explanation for these chapters. The popular explanation of the day for Daniel 7 and 8 are equivalent to placebos – they are a placeholder doing nothing to pull back the veil. They are assigned by theologians to be fulfilled by ancient events while verses like Daniel 7:12-13,17 and 8:17,19 are ignored. Do they really believe they can properly interpret that which God has said is concealed until the end time? And since the popular interpretation has not changed even though the end times began more than thirty years ago, one can see how powerful the keeping of tradition is. But from the viewpoint of the theology of the Four Signposts, Daniel chapters 7 and 8 have been completely misunderstood up until now. These chapters deal with the end times – the events leading to the emergence of Antichrist, the Tribulation, and finally the return of Christ. And they are concealed – not for plain reading – until the end time. It is time to break with tradition and see what is being unsealed before our eyes.
Not all prophecy in the Bible is hidden like in Daniel. There are other passages that are relatively easy to understand. Here is one example from the vision of the dry bones: “I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel.” (Ezekiel 37:21-22) This is relatively easy to understand. At some time before the return of Christ we should see the Jews coming back to the land of Israel. As it turns out this has occurred starting in the 1890s and continues to this day. It is something that has been going on for a century before the times we might call the end times.
But Daniel and Revelation are filled with statements like, “I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.” (Revelation 6:2, NIV) What is this supposed to mean? Who is the rider? When does this happen? Another difficult one is, “there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule.” (Daniel 7:6, NIV) What does this leopard represent? When does this happen? Of course the message of the Four Signposts as I wrote in Hidden In Plain Sight presents compelling answers to these questions. Passages in Daniel are written like these with symbolism rather than with plain language because they are sealed and therefore hidden until the end times.
Upon further reflection on the Four Signposts, and the books of Daniel and Revelation, it appears to me that where Daniel is a book of prophecy that is sealed until the end time, Revelation is a narrative showing that very same Daniel prophecy being UNSEALED! Evidence shown in my book is that the events of Daniel 7 and 8 are linked to the four horsemen, and that with each of the first four seals of Revelation 6 being broken, each of the four signposts begins. That is why Revelation is just as difficult to understand. The two books really do go hand-in-hand. You cannot truly understand a narrative about the unsealing of something, until the something that is sealed is, indeed, truly unsealed.
In Revelation, prior to chapter 6, the apostle John is giving a narrative of what he saw prior to witnessing the breaking of the seals starting in Revelation 6:1. John is shown in Revelation 5:5 that the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ himself is the only one capable of breaking the seals of the scroll. That scroll is symbolic of God’s Word being made plain and manifest – it is the physical manifestation of the unsealing of all that was sealed up in Daniel. There are a total of seven seals that need to be broken for all of end time prophecy to be unsealed and made plain. The first four seals release each of the four horsemen, one at a time. These four horsemen are each part of the Four Signposts as described in my book, Hidden In Plain Sight. Following on the heels of the breaking of these four seals, the breaking of the fifth seal shows the time during the Tribulation. The breaking of the sixth seal reveals Christ’s return. The breaking of the seventh seal unleashes God’s final wrath. But prior to the time of the Tribulation we have the first four seals, the four horsemen, and thus the Four Signposts. One by one in John’s account starting in Revelation 6:1 the prophecies of the end-times are unsealed and unveiled so that the words of Daniel become plain and easily understood. They are each unsealed when each seal is literally broken in Revelation 6.
A question that may come to mind is if prophecies in Daniel are to be kept sealed until the end time, when does the end time begin? Indeed the end time begins with the start of the unsealing of prophecy (per Daniel 12:9), and the breaking of the first seal in Revelation 6:1. And from that first seal being broken until everything is unsealed, there will be one generation. Jesus tells us this. Jesus told us in Matthew 24 about the Four Signposts. He said that you will hear of wars and rumors of wars and nations rising against each other (in Matthew 24:6-7) and that these are the beginning of the pains. All of the things mentioned in Jesus’ discourse in Matthew 24 including the beginning wars, the Tribulation (vs. 15-28) and his own return (vs. 29-31) all occur in one generation because Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” (Matthew 24:34, NIV) Therefore the end times are commensurate with one generation, beginning with the wars and rumors of wars of the Four Signposts, and ending with Christ’s glorious and blessed Return. The Four Signposts are really nothing but wars, reports of wars, and nation rising against nation – all through them. The breaking of the first seal in Revelation 6 unleashes the first horseman who is also the start of the first signpost. And at that point we have the start of the wars, and the start of the unsealing in Revelation, which in Daniel 12:9 says won’t happen until the start of the end times. And so we can say that the end times begin with the start of the first signpost – which started in 1979.
One generation is the duration of the end-times – it is the one generation prior to Christ’s coming. It started with the beginning of the first signpost which began in 1979 which was also when the first seal of Revelation was broken. When the first seal of the seven-fold sealed scroll was broken, the rider of the white horse was released. As I wrote in Hidden In Plain Sight I argue in detail that this rider represents none other than Saddam Hussein himself. The rider of the first horse is not Christ, or the Antichrist, it is simply a leader bent on conquest to watch for, who will kick off the end times. He is associated with the modern country that is the central stage of the first signpost, i.e. Iraq.
In conclusion, Daniel has been difficult to understand up until now because it has been concealed by God until the end times. But now it is still being concealed, not by God, but by men – men who are allowing their traditional and “pre-unsealed” explanations to block their witnessing of the unsealing of Daniel. With a complete understanding of Middle East history, and with careful attention to each and every verse of Daniel 7 and 8, and with an eye to detail of what is happening during this generation in the Middle East, one can understand and see the unsealing of Daniel. At this point since the publication of Hidden In Plain Sight several months ago I have been amazed at the feedback I have received from readers, which has shown excitement, astonishment, strengthening of faith, or changing of end-time viewpoints. Looking back in retrospect of where we all were before the knowledge of the Signposts, we should have suspected that the unsealing of Daniel by God during the end times would evoke the very same emotions and responses.
Categories: Signpost Theology
Can we organize a prophecy conference to discuss these issues? I would like to meet with you in person if possible… i live in sacramento and attend calvary chapel folsom however i do not follow the pre trib teachings…
Sounds fine. I have your email. Lets talk.
Zechariah 6 has a prophecy that links Daniel 7 with Revelation 6
Eighth Vision: Four Chariots
6 And again I looked up and saw four chariots coming out from between two mountains—mountains of bronze. 2 The first chariot had red horses, the second chariot black horses, 3 the third chariot white horses, and the fourth chariot dappled gray[a] horses. 4 Then I said to the angel who talked with me, “What are these, my lord?” 5 The angel answered me, “These are the four winds[b] of heaven going out, after presenting themselves before the Lord of all the earth. 6 The chariot with the black horses goes toward the north country, the white ones go toward the west country,[c] and the dappled ones go toward the south country.” 7 When the steeds came out, they were impatient to get off and patrol the earth. And he said, “Go, patrol the earth.” So they patrolled the earth. 8 Then he cried out to me, “Lo, those who go toward the north country have set my spirit at rest in the north country.”
Notice the chariots with the same colored horses as Revelation 6 are the same as the four winds of heaven that stir the sea in Daniel 7. The black horse goes north to Turkey for signpost 3. (correct) The Red horse by default goes east to Iran and signpost 2 (correct). The white horse goes WEST??? This depends on where the mountains of bronze are of course. If it is east of Babylon then this makes sense as well. interestingly the green horse goes south probably to Egypt. Later in Daniel it speaks of the war between the King of the North and King of the South. Could the death horse be going to Egypt for that reason??
Mark I would be interested in your thoughts on this prophecy and how it fits with the signposts.
Well Jim you’ve gone and done it – I think you’ve solved another piece to the puzzle. I’ve wrestled with this passage in Zechariah having noticed for years it might have something to do with the signposts, and gave up. The fours sets of horses and the colors and the four winds themes all caught my attention before, but some other verses I couldn’t make sense of. That’s why I don’t cover it in the book.
But you’ve given us all a bit more to think about here. To make sense of the directions, you are assuming Zechariah is seeing these horses from a place east of Babylon (which isn’t a bad assumption, but just one I haven’t considered). The dappled/green going south would be Arabia (think Mecca) not Egypt since that would be the fourth signpost and Islam.
There are two things that I still don’t understand. One troubling matter is the two mountains of bronze. The only thing I could think of was maybe they stood for the kingdoms of the north and south in Daniel 11 (but I don’t know). But as you say they would have to be east of Babylon so what are they indeed. The second is how the black horses in the north found rest and what that means – don’t know about that either. The black horses going north would be the set of horses that found the Antichrist’s origin (i.e. Turkey).
Anyway, thank you very much for that input. Its almost as if Zechariah is seeing a preview of God placing the horses to be seen in Revelation 6.
I think the “mountains of brass” have baffled bible scholars for a long time. I can give my thoughts on the matter, but they are just thoughts. I see verse 1 and 5 as parallel. One is the vision, one the interpretation. In fact the words “going out” and “coming out” in the verses are the same Hebrew word. Thus the chariots are leaving the presence of GOD. To me that precludes anything to do with the Kingdom of Brass (Greece). Plus it splits into 4 kingdoms not 2. Brass is used something like 150 times in scripture so the metaphor can be something else. The 2 pillars in Solomon’s Temple were brass. Might the pillars in Heaven’s Temple appear as “mountains” to a mortal like Zechariah and also be brass? Thus the chariots might be leaving God’s Temple under God’s orders (judgements).
Now as for “he” (I assume the angel) having his spirit set to rest by the black horses. My assumption on this has always been that God’s judgement in the north has satisfied the angel.
My main take-away was the link between Daniel 7 and Revelation 6, between Revelation’s horses and the winds of heaven.
Mark, I just received my 10 copies of your book yesterday and consumed it. Thank you for listening to God’s Spirit and sharing this revelation with the Chruch. Now to share the other 9 copies with pastors and friends.
I also wanted to followup on my last post. After reading the “Harbinger” I have new potential thoughtsl. Ever since 9/11 there have been theories that the two “mountains of brass” were the twin towers; theories I instantly dismissed as “pop culture prophecy”. Now after reading Rabbi Cahn’s book I’m not so sure. The first signpost, the white horseman (or white horses and chariot of this passage) was released either with 9/11 or slightly before depending on interpretation. Seeing the horses as coming out from between the towers now doesn’t seem so far fetched. Certainly 9/11 is a seminal event to the signposts. Interestingly placing the mountains of brass at ground zero works with direction the chariots go as well. God’s movement of the gospel is always west (Israel to Europe to America to China, etc; the ox face faces west in the Living Creatures, etc.) So traveling west from NYC would take us to Iraq. Tirana, Albania is actually 1 degree north of NYC so the black horses would still go north although it is a bit of a stretch. No direction is given for the red horses and the spotted horses would still go south. So the “mountains of brass” would be a sign of the timing of the horses.
Thanks for the word on the books, I am so glad the message was a blessing.
You certainly have some interesting ideas, and you’re right about watching out for “pop culture prophecy.” As far as timing and the white horse are concerned, when the first seal was broken the first horseman on the white horse rode out. I believe that was July 16, 1979, the day Saddam Hussein became ruler of Iraq. That is also the day I believe the end-times officially began (Daniel to be sealed until the end-times per Dan 12:4).
You might have something there though because 9/11 was indeed the triggering event that got the wheels turning so Iraq was invaded so the lion could be forced to stand. So it started in 1979 but the second half of it could only occur with 9/11.
And speaking of the Harbinger did you see my post on that subject? That date in 2015 could very well be related to the second signpost, for that signpost will set actions in motion that will take down the USA.
Mark, thank you so much for responding and discussing this fascinating scripture with me.
Today I gave my pastor a copy of your book. Prayerfully he is open to it.
Continuing our discussion of a working theory that the “mountains of brass” in Zechariah 6 are the twin towers, they were built in 1973. Saddam’s ascendancy in Iraq was 1979 so the horses could have very well driven between the towers at that time to start the end times. Obviously they couldn’t drive thru them after 9/11. I did a little research on the twin towers. I found out they were coated with an aluminum alloy coating (brass is an aluminum/copper alloy) which made them “shine like bronze” in sunlight. They were among the most striking buildings in the history of man. At the time of their construction they were the tallest buildings in the world, twin towers of Babel so to speak. They were named 1 World Trade Center and 2 World Trade Center. A new single tower is being constructed on the site. Originally named the Freedom Tower it has been re-named ONE WORLD Trade Center (my emphasis but their spelling).
This research gave me goosebumps. The same ones I get every time a new scripture is opened to me. I have now moved the mountains of brass being the twin towers from a working theory to the main theory in my mind. It fits in all aspects, timing, geography with the horses and it’s height and construction materials. And how about that new name? It fits perfectly with Rabbi Cahn’s Harbinger thesis of the USA’s arrogance.
Yes I saw your Harbinger post. I agree with all you said. If these two theories, Harbinger and Signposts, are correct they should dovetail.
Yes it can be interesting and fun to explore.
I’ve been giving the two mountains of bronze theme some more thought. We do have to be careful about what you said earlier about pop culture in prophecy. God may be using the towers as a sign, but I wouldn’t think it would be any kind of fulfillment. In the Bible, mountains are representative of a kingdom, empire or realm. If these chariots of horses are to match the directions geographically as the four directions where the countries are that lead each signpost, I would say that the two mountains have to be somewhere around Susa. (As you noted in an earlier comment, white goes west to Iraq, black goes north to Turkey, dappled/green goes south to Arabia, red stays right where it is in Iran.) Those mountains are made of bronze/brass. I’m wondering if they have something to do with the kingdom of the north and south which were part of the greek realm, like the bronze/brass of the belly/thighs. Don’t know though.